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Yes, it makes all other happy moments so much more worthwhile...

10 (31.3%)

It can, but it's not a definite must.

17 (53.1%)

No, a manga shouldn't do that.

5 (15.6%)

Total Members Voted: 32

[Demonprince]

imho, i won't say goodbye to Luciola now, bro...(at least, not now)

you might change your mind later about A**taroth, bro...(but i surely hope that you're not) 

I'm not what? and why would I change my mind about the one responsible for the death of Luciola... DAMN YOU ASS-TAROTH DAMN YOU VESPA DAMN YOU KIRA lol I think I've said that b4

[ryo_saeba]

I'm not what? and why would I change my mind about the one responsible for the death of Luciola...

glad to hear that...^^

[Demonprince]

glad to hear that...^^

nvm I did change my mind... NOW I THINK HES A COWARD TO, HE WANTED TO DIE SO HE COULD RUN AWAY FROM WHAT HES DONE INSTEAD OF FACING IT AND REDEEMING HIMSELF HE WANTED TO DIE CUZ HE WAS SCARED TO LIVE

[takashima]

One difference between Ashtaroth & us is, we get to live and we get to die. While Ashtaroth didn't get to die before.
But it's still not an excuse to bring anyone to die with him.

[Demonprince]

One difference between Ashtaroth & us is, we get to live and we get to die. While Ashtaroth didn't get to die before.
But it's still not an excuse to bring anyone to die with him.

I don't care he got to live, isn't that better as someone who was once suicidal I know that wanting to die is the same as being to scared of living i was like that a few years back,, i did a lot of bad things and i couldn't live with myself, thats being scare to face what youve done, he is like I was the lowest kind of coward, the only difference is, I did bad stuff but I never killed anyone

[takashima]

But unlike us, Ashtaroth didn't get a chance to die before. His life is getting too long, he can't endure it.

IMO, we value life because it's not eternal, living for eternity might be considered a curse (especially when only you alone who get that eternity).

[Demonprince]

But unlike us, Ashtaroth didn't get a chance to die before. His life is getting too long, he can't endure it.

IMO, we value life because it's not eternal, living for eternity might be considered a curse (especially when only you alone who get that eternity).

but he was only all alone cuz he threw everything else away again like I once was, thats called being a coward

[takashima]

I think Ashtaroth is literally alone because only him who can't die.
And it's ok if he wants to die so badly after all the millennia he's been through but it's not ok if he wants to take anyone with him.

[ryo_saeba]

nvm I did change my mind...

hehehe, i knew that somehow you would change your mind...but, that's a good point, bro...

One difference between Ashtaroth & us is, we get to live and we get to die. While Ashtaroth didn't get to die before.
But it's still not an excuse to bring anyone to die with him.

you just hit the jackpot, dude...^^
to be honest...i DO have a little sympathy for him, but it got covered by my hate for him...^^

[Demonprince]

hehehe, i knew that somehow you would change your mind...but, that's a good point, bro...

you just hit the jackpot, dude...^^
to be honest...i DO have a little sympathy for him, but it got covered by my hate for him...^^

It changed for the better tho in this case hes an even bigger coward than me I wanted to die once, to run away from the bad things I'd done but death is just running away, I did bad stuff now I gotta make up for it by living with myself, but as much as I wanted to die I was never able to bring myself into doing anything slightly dangerous because somewhere I knew that death was the same as running away from what I'd done like a frightened child although I do scream and run away whenever I see a bug now, bad experience caused that tho but I guess that makes me an even bigger coward than b4, but not like him he was afraid to live yet he was also afraid to die alone so he tried to bring the world with him, a pathetic simple minded coward even after Luciolas death I still had some respect for him but not after this

[ryo_saeba]

hehehe, nice word, dude...^^
glad that you could share some of your story with us...

a pathetic simple minded coward even after Luciolas death I still had some respect for him but not after this

some other fans DID change his mind and gave sympathy for A**taroth after they knew his "real motive" (including one of my best friend in my country)

but, i just feel that somehow his "motive" is only a way for Shiina to redeem this character (but to be honest...personally, i didn't know why Shiina have to DO that)